Weekly reporting deadline

[Demreb]

Another topic brought up during the season and discussed at The Banquet was the reporting deadline (currently 5pm on Fridays to take effect for Saturday's games).

When the league was first established we had a deadline of 12 noon (before any games started) Tuesday. This coincided with when the USA Today would provide updated statistics (WAAAAY before the Internet and ESPN, back when the standings were calculated on a weekly basis).

Do you like our current Friday 5pm reporting deadline? Would you like to see it changed?

[Copperfields]

Rich,
Thanks for starting these threads!

Here is some input from Teddy on this:
I would like to propose that the current 4PM deadline on Friday be pushed back into the weekend. I believe that many others, like me, are more flexible with their time on the weekends. I have missed numerous roster submission and bid deadlines, even in this season that I was competitive, simply because I am currently having serious problems with finding the necessary amount of time immediately prior to the deadline. At one point, I considered starting to make my moves 24-48 hours beforehand because I was upset at the number of times I was missing the deadline. Aside from simple procrastination, I do not believe that such a practice is optimal due to wanting to wait so as to have has much information as possible prior to making your moves. And with regards to information, I think that the Friday deadline is not optimal because most starting pitching assignments for the following week are still undecided. In addition to having more time to make the moves on a Sunday, for example, there would be the opportunity to have much more complete expected projected starting assignments.

[stones]

I agree with Teddy's comments (as related by David) regarding moving the transaction times from 4:00 pm on Friday to a more conducive time during the weekend.

I like the idea of Sunday afternoon as well.

I too have failed to get transactions in because of procrastination, but also, because the flow of the day doesn't always allow me to stop for an hour or two in the afternoon on Friday to get on the net and check out Free Agents or reserve roster moves. During the time I was working on forming the bank, I had the time. Now I just don't.

[redhots]

I also agree with Teddy's comments (as related by David) regarding moving the transaction times to the weekend.

I too like the idea of Sunday afternoon.

[MGrage]

stones said:

I agree with Teddy's comments (as related by David) regarding moving the transaction times from 4:00 pm on Friday to a more conducive time during the weekend.

I like the idea of Sunday afternoon as well.

I too have failed to get transactions in because of procrastination, but also, because the flow of the day doesn't always allow me to stop for an hour or two in the afternoon on Friday to get on the net and check out Free Agents or reserve roster moves. During the time I was working on forming the bank, I had the time. Now I just don't.

redhots said:

I also agree with Teddy's comments (as related by David) regarding moving the transaction times to the weekend.

I too like the idea of Sunday afternoon.

I also agree with Bob's agreeing with Steve's agreeing with Teddy's agreeing ... oh wait, that's one too many agrees. Nevermind.

Since my schedule changes every week, any day/time is as convenient/inconvenient as the next. I usually have to send in my moves one day ahead of time once every three weeks so if this uber slacker can do it, you plebe slackers can too. That said, I most likely wouldn't vote against a move to Sunday. Mahalo

Matt

[Demreb]

In response to Teddy's Monk-e-mail:

I wouldn't be opposed to a Saturday or Sunday reporting deadline (Time TBA) especially if that means that will bring Teddy back into the league so that he can torment us with loopholes in the Constitution.

Anyone else in favor of Sat/Sun?

[stones]

stones said:

I agree with Teddy's comments (as related by David) regarding moving the transaction times from 4:00 pm on Friday to a more conducive time during the weekend.

I like the idea of Sunday afternoon as well.

See above.

[MGrage]

Sure, why not? Like I said before, one day is as bad as the other. I'll be third in line behind Bernie's hugemongous mustache. Mahalo

Matt

[Copperfields]

So far there has been nothing but agreement with the proposal to move the transaction deadline to the weekend. Response has been favorable, and at times enthusiastic, and no one has yet voiced any concern about such a move. With that being the case, I think it's safe to move beyond the discussion whether or not the deadline should be on the weekend to a discussion of exactly when that dealine should be. (Note that this doesn't mean the deadline's officially moving -- such a change would still need to be put to a formal vote).

My initial thought is something like 6:00 PM on Sunday, with moves being effective for Monday's games. This would mean the following:

• Owners would have nearly the entire weekend to ponder moves and do whatever research is necessary.
• Unlike Saturday, almost all of Sunday's games have a 1:00 or 1:30 start time (in the local time zone), so most of the day's games would be completed by the time moves are due.
• The exception to this is, of course, when there is an NL game scheduled for Sunday night. I'm not sure how much of a problem that possible Sunday night game would be, as we'd be in a situation similar to what we have now, where transactions are submitted before a game begins, but the moves aren't effective until after the game is over.
• MLB series almost always end on a Sunday, so the effective date of our transactions will usually coincide with the beginning of a new series.
• I would have nearly the entire weekend to work on odds and ends for the week's report (that is to say, I'd have the weekend available, not that I'd actually spend the whole weekend working on it).
• Aside from possible issues with submitting moves before the Sunday night game is played, the only drawback I can think of is personal (in terms of processing the moves and getting the reports published after the deadline) -- Sunday nights are usually pretty busy here: getting the kids set for the coming school week, getting myself set for the coming work week, trying to get to bed at a reasonable time so I can get up for work on time in the AM, etc. That said, I don't know that Sunday nights are any busier than most other nights. Friday and Saturday nights have a little more leeway since I can stay up all night working on things if I need to, but then they're also usually busier with family activities, etc.

Does anyone else have thoughts on a 6:00 PM Sunday deadline (pro or con (or both))? Any other proposed days/times?

David

[MGrage]

Da Bears.

Anyways, my first thought is to maybe have the deadline on Saturday instead. I'm very much in favor of keeping you awake until 2-3 in the morning. As a collarary, push the time back to midnight. *mwah-ha-ha-ha-ha*

Nah, not really. But perhaps an 8PM Saturday deadline wouldn't be too shabby either. Mahalo

Matt

[davidsruffins (archived)]

I'm good with the weekend as well. Personally, I like the idea of Sunday late afternoon/early evening. This is a time when I'm least likely to be doing weekend fun or running around kinds of things. But that's just me. I'm sure I'll be fine with the majority's preference.

OK, I just saw Dave's initial proposal. Sunday at 6 is fine by me.

[Copperfields]

mgrage said:

Nah, not really. But perhaps an 8PM Saturday deadline wouldn't be too shabby either.

Matt,
Was there something in particular about 8:00 PM on Saturday that made you suggest it? Just wondering because while you said it wouldn't be too shabby, you didn't really indicate what would be the benefits of that day/time.

My initial thoughts would be 1) it'd be smack in the middle of most of the evening games (and on some Saturdays that's the majority of the NL slate). I guess there's nothing that says transactions can't be recorded during gametime, but it seems a little off to me. One thing I like about the 6:00 Sunday deadline is that it's before the Sunday night game and after the vast majority of the day games have ended. 2) It's been a good 10 years since I've had any kind of Saturday night social life, but I imagine there are guys in the league who still are out and about on Saturday nights. And even though I probably won't be out wining and dining on a Saturday night, summer Saturday afernoons and evenings are rife with kids' activities, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that regard. It just seems that 8:00PM on Saturday could be targeting one of the busiest times on the weekend.

I'm not saying I'm totally opposed to 8PM Saturday - I just don't see any particular benefit of that time as opposed to another. Did you have something in mind?

David

[Demreb]

It appears there is a strong sentiment for the weekend. I won't reiterate all of David's points for the 6pm deadline, but I tend to agree with all of them. Doing something like 8pm on Saturdays doesn't feel right. Like David, I won't be out cavorting, but reporting for a deadline that is at the beginning or in the middle of a game seems odd (although I guess we ran into that a bit recently with the Friday 5pm deadline - but now that I think of it, most Friday afternoon games were over and the evening games hadn't begun yet).

I don't like to keep switching the report deadline (there were still times last year when I was thinking on Monday that I had to report my moves by noon the next day), but if the majority of the league is in favor of it and it makes things more doable for David with the new restraints at work - then I'm in.

[Splinters]

I am very much in support of the proposed deadline of 6:00 PM on Sunday.

[redhots]

I also would support the proposed deadline of 6pm on Sunday. All of the points David made seem valid with it being after the Sunday day games and prior to any night games.