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Post by Demreb on Dec 27, 2005 23:15:22 GMT -5
According to Baseball Insider Bruce Levine, the offer is official:
Prior, Hill and Patterson to Baltimore for
Tejada and Bedard
Thoughts?
I don't mind giving up Patterson and losing Prior would bother me but I understand the notion of "giving something to get something". However, giving up Hill in addition seems a bit much. Maybe that's the penalty the Cubs have to pay for sending Sosa to the Orioles last year.
What's your take?
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Post by Copperfields on Dec 28, 2005 4:09:28 GMT -5
I'm not too hung up on giving up Hill -- keep in mind that he's over 6 months older than Mark Prior and has yet to accomplish diddly in the majors.
I just hope Hendry & Co are doing their homework on Tejada and possible steroid involvement. Obviously, he came from BALCO's backyard in Oakland, and Ron Shandler had an interesting note on him (pure unfounded speculation): "Palmiero was busted for steroid use on August 1. Tejada prior to 8/1: .330 BA, .934 OPS. Tejada after 8/1: .270 BA, .704 OPS. Coincidence? Your call. We're just reporting data here."
There's no question, steroids or not, Tejada would be a huge upgrade over Ronny Cedeno and Neifi Perez. But if we'd be getting "mere mortal Tejada", I'm not sure it's a Mark Prior-sized upgrade.
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Post by Demreb on Dec 28, 2005 11:09:37 GMT -5
Excellent point, David! I wasn't aware of Shandler's quote or the numbers, but Tejada's connection with Palmiero (real or not) is concerning. Also, yesterday on line I saw a report that Tejada and other Dominican players are named in a phone card fraud lawsuit. It looks like the players are blameless (promoting a product that didn't work properly) but it's another string to pull at.
I would have to believe that Hendry would do his due dillegence with Tejada. Fans can be enamored with numbers, GMs need to dig.
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Post by MGrage on Dec 31, 2005 14:14:33 GMT -5
Well, I wouldn't be so down on Hill Dave. He's still a really young pitcher at 25. He won't be hitting his prime for a couple of years. Dusty didn't stick with him even after everyone knew the Cubs weren't going anywhere last year. Giving him 5-6 starts in September wouldn't have hurt anyone. Don't most prospects struggle when they first reach the majors? Just look at McCarthy.
Anyways, I wouldn't trade Prior straight up for Tejada. They just don't have the pitching depth anymore to cover a loss like that. The White Sox proved again that excellent pitching wins out over great hitting most of the time. If I were Hendry, I'd be adding starters instead of looking to sell them ... Mahalo
Matt
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Post by Nick's Picts (archived) on Dec 31, 2005 16:25:58 GMT -5
I think I would do the deal (which is a vote against it!) pending the outcome of some serious homework on Tejada. I'm not sure what metric one would use to verify his alleged steriod use but if I could convince myself that his post 8/1 numbers were something benign like exhaustion, change in environment, slump, or minor injury then giving up an injury-prone superstar for a huge bump in daily production seems like a good deal.
Patterson is another addition via subtraction and Hill is a gamble. Getting a solid lefty starter for the two of them seems like a bargain.
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